Dating App Disasters
A comedy podcast about the trials and tribulations of modern dating.
Ep.115 “They Took My Sleeve” with Andre D. Thompson
Our guest Andre stops by this week to give us some deets on writing for Charlemagne’s new revamped show Hell of a Week. He also lets us know why he thinks hoe phases aren’t productive and should we just get rid of filters altogether…?
Ep.123 “Svetlana is Mine” with Jill Gonzalez
We have news personality/comedienne Jill Gonzalez on this week to discuss power dynamics and what it’s like to be a Fin Dom. We also get into the psychology of foot fetishes and Jill may be the first person we’ve heard that likes getting waxed a little too much…
Ep.119 “Sometimes the Signs Just Don’t Align” with Zarif Qadir
The O.G. Tinder Swindler stops by to clear up all his melodrama! He also lets us know why dating apps are waaayy bigger in the U.K and he proves people can change and evolve…
Ep.87 “Masturbating Aliens” with Harrison Greenbaum
There are aliens amongst us this week on Dating App Disasters but besides all that we have yet another tinder success story and we heard the greatest app proposal story EVER!
Ep.79 “Crazy knows Crazy” with Chanel Omari
This week we have the princess of Long Island on to discuss the mind fuck following being on reality tv. We also discuss how our male friends steer us in the wrong direction when giving relationship advice and coffee never leads to stoking…
Ep.103 “Have I Had Sex Before?” With Katie Morrissey
Katie Morrissey stops by this week and we have a fun chat about how many styles of vaginas there are. We also realize what was considered romantic back in the day would be terrifying now and will Phil ever make it on Raya…?
Ep.95 “It’s the Devil You Know”
This week we have fun reading your stories and questions! We also get to the bottom of why bots are watching your Instagram stories and when is the right time to throw in the towel in a relationship…?
Ep.168 “Shlummin and Shleppin” with Seaton Smith
Seaton Smith joins us this week to help Phil go out with a bang on his final episode. He talks about what it was like doing stand up on the worlds biggest stage, how hypnosis makes you a better lover and would you be offended if someone leaves their clothes on during sexy time…?
Ep.167 “Get Out of My House” with Lizzy Cassidy
This week Lizzy Cassidy joins us and demonstrates that Tinder relationships are actually possible! On a more serious note we learn some helpful suicide warning signs to look out for and what do you do if your date tells you they’ve murdered someone…?
Ep.170 “Let Me Go Back to My Country!” With Eman El Husseini
Part 2 continues with Eman El Husseini and we talk about more misconceptions and plead for Jews and Palestinians to be open to have conversations and try to understand each other. We also talk about why she’s always felt like an outsider and how the war has unified her relationship…
Ep.169 “No One is Innocent” With Jess Salomon
Dating and relationships take a pause this week to discuss our relationship with humanity and get informed on what’s going on in Palestine and Israel. On part one, we have comedian and ex UN war crimes attorney Jess Salomon on to talk about if celebrities have a responsibility to speak up, that Zionism is a cult and is there a solution…?
Ep.171 “Shades of Exes” with Neko White and James Mattern
Two long time friends and hilarious comics pay a visit for some shenanigans. We know it’s redundant by now but we have a chat about what’s really behind “the list”, vulgar women, and lack of passion these days. And what do you do if your date pulls a knife on you for not texting back fast enough…?
Ep.172 “I Want Somebody to Kill For Me” with Daphnique Springs and Zach McGovern
This week Daphnique Springs and Zach McGovern return to try and decipher flirting tactics between races. We also wonder when men getting plastic surgery became a new norm and is ethical non monagamy really ethical…?
Ep.173 “I Love Long Island” with Amy Cardinale and Chris Scopo
This week we start off by getting real about intimacy issues and how Amy and Chris’s stage persona is what they wish they could be like in real life. We also discuss how adderall affects relationships and does every Kiss begin with Kay…?
Ep.111 “Let’s Just Never Do This Again” with Tanael Joachim
We have the Oprah of comedy on this week to tell us the story of how he got reverse catfished and can cheating on your partner actually make you appreciate them more…?
Ep.166 “I’m a F*ing Immigrant!” With Katie Boyle
We have the hilarious Katie Boyle joining us this week for a bit of serious time but still sneak a lil fun in there. Katie educates us about stealthing and that roasting is a love language in Ireland. We also discuss balance in relationships and do you call your friends out for cheating…?
Ep.107 “Medium D**K Soldier Please” with Corinne Fisher
We have podcast queen Corinne Fisher on this week to discuss her masculine wants, “fun” times on Raya and her hatred of anything wholesome…
Ep.165 “I Did a Binge Hinge” with Ontonio Kareem
—-more—-Troubles Back this week with Ontonio Kareem and we’re talking all about the things women don’t want to hear but need to! We also get into whether you should consult your partner if you’re making a major change to your appearance, learning how to deal with rejection and do you expect a text after a one night stand…?
Ep.99 “Fighting Bears with Switches” with Mike Brown
Our guest Mike’s dating app history didn’t start as a disaster but it ended as one! We also joke that NYers won’t ever travel to another borough for a date and are separate households the future of marriage…?
Ep.164 “Cause Cam’ron Says So” with Matt Pavich
We have the very funny comedian/actor Matt Pavich with us this week to chat about what dating is like with bipolar disorder. Phil also schools us why men are threatened by other men in an open relationship but not women and what do you do if the person you start dating tells you they blocked you from Raya…?
Ep.91 “Name the MF Names” with Maddy Smith
This week Phil gets our guest Maddy high so as we go on this rollercoaster of an episode we talk about matching with people we know just to be funny and do people still take getting ghosted personally…?
Ep.163 “What’s a Boyfriend?” with Nina Kharoufeh
This week we have undefeated amateur boxer, comedian and dating coach Nina Kharoufeh on to let us know until you have a ring on your finger-you’re single! We also get into the misconceptions about arranged marriage, why compatibility is more important than love and are gender roles still a thing…?
Ep.83 “Plight of the Eskimo Bros” with Derek Gaines
Our guest Derek has some Crrrazzy stories but has now found the one girl that doesn’t annoy him. He also lets us know why you shouldn’t waste time on face time and that being humble ain’t the way to go!
Ep.162 “It’s the Mindler Swindler” with Sabeen Sadiq
We’re back this week with the funny and gorgeous Sabeen Sadiq and she lets us know how she hoped of having an arranged marriage but that wasn’t in the cards. We also discuss how much music influences dating trends and what do you do if you find out the guy you’re dating is a cult leader…?!
Ep.174 “You Flirtin with Me Bro?” with Rachel Williams and Ian Lara
This week Rachel Williams and Ian Lara stop by to talk about why it’s so hard for comedians to maintain a relationship. We also try to figure out at what age people outgrow the toxic ones and infidelity isn’t a dealbreaker…?
Ep.161 “Happiness is a F*Ing Choice” with Rafi Bastos
We have the incredibly funny and wise Rafi Bastos with us this week to let us know that pain is a choice and that controlling your emotions is easier than one would think. We also discuss throwing around the word love like it’s water and is it possible to stay friends with an ex while in a new relationship…?
Ep.121 “Go Get Ernie” with Carmen Lagala
We say au revoir to summer this week with our first and last outdoor episode. We discuss if long distance relationships can go the distance and hilarious stories of first self-pleasure. Carmen also lets us know the proper way to slide into a DM…
Ep.160 “Sophisticated Street Meat” with Simeon Goodson
We have the ridiculously hilarious Simeon Goodson joining us this week to share what doing comedy in Dubai is like and attempting to date after being out of the country for so long. We also discuss cultural differences of dating and would/have you ever had an entanglement with a friends ex…?
Ep.117 “Why Don’t You F$@&?” With Maximilian Spinelli
This week Phil finally approves of Rachel’s hair and Maximilian Spinelli drops by to give us all the reasons not to date your coworkers. We also help a listener figure out if you should mention your pandemic drought and what do you do if your date pulls out tarot cards and lets you know you’re the devil…?
Ep.159 “The Painting Don’t Lie” with Holly Salerno
We have the incredibly talented artist and dating app afficianado Holly Salerno with us this week to determine if “liking” sexy pics is the gateway to cheating? She also shares her brave story of turning her brain tumor into art and what do you do if your most recent match shows up at your job…?
Ep.113 “That Egg Wants Salt” with Irene Morales
This week we have lots to discuss with our guest Irene such as Beyoncé’s new plastic surgery and that we all have a type we just don’t wanna admit it. And what’s your next move when your date confides in you that he’s becoming a wizard…?
Ep.158 “TMJ” with Katie Hannigan
Our guest this week-the very funny Katie Hannigan was on the apps before they were even a thing. She is also proof that comics can have successful relationships with each other and that the key to a long lasting one is just to be…silly!
Ep.109 “Not in My League Man” with John Campanelli
This week John joins us to discuss how wildly different dating is in NY vs. LA and if dating celebrities will affect future relationships with regular folk. And is it ever a good idea to have your friend have your kid…?
Ep.157 “Two Stars the Peach was Rotten” with Colin Hodge
We have creator of the Down app Colin Hodge joining us this week to show us all the benefits of the app and how it eliminates most of the confusion that comes with dating online. We also touch on the future of AI in dating and can/will people start falling in love with machines…?
Ep.105 “You Can’t Take the Stripes Off a Tiger” with James Mattern
In between Phil and our guest making fun of Rachel’s new hair we discuss James’ gambling theory on “chasing the loss” and whether pillow talk is the determining factor on a one night stand going any further. And is catcalling only cool with republicans…?
Ep.156 “So This is a Dating Podcast?” with Alex Gorge
Our guest Alex joins us because he needs to be on the Catfish but has no idea what the show even is?! We also talk about the trend of men not feeling like they can say no to weird things in the bedroom and what do you do if midway through a first date you realize your date may be homeless…?
Ep.101 “Picky or Petty” with Rell Battle
This week we have the sitcom king Rell Battle on talk about what dating is like as a twin, how he’s never had a bad date and that Pete Davidson is every dudes new dating guru…
Ep.155 “Whose Teeth are You Wearing” with Eva Evans
The fabulous and funny Eva Evans joins us this week to chat about what age we start getting vocal about what you don’t like during sex. We also dive into sugar daddies, situationships and do sheltered kids make crazy adults…?
Ep.97 “I Slept Through My Manhood” with Wilfred Padua
This week we analyze our guest Wilfred’s profile so he can hopefully have some better luck? We also get into racial bias on the apps and getting circumcised as your gateway to manhood at…13!
Ep.154 “A Light Hundy” with Mike Cannon
Mike Cannon stops by this week to discuss marriage and fatherhood and why he thinks not being a dad is a waste of your silliness. Phil also has a major announcement and can a mushroom trip make you wanna get married…?
Ep.93 “I’m Against Myself” with Nataly Aukar
Nataly’s back this week to discuss what equality means these days and how we want it-or not? We also try to help her out with her pickup lines and why do people feel the need to critique comedians when they get off stage…?
Ep.153 “Boycott the D” with Leclerc Andre
We have the wise and hilarious Leclerc Andre with us this week to drop gems about why the partner you choose is your biggest financial decision. He also lets us know why men think of turning down sex like turning down money and would you let your partner Kanye (style) you…?
Ep.89 “Dr. Phil’s On the Way” with Amy Shanker
The Shanker has returned to help Rachel bust Phil’s chops! We also get to the bottom of one of our listeners dating issues and are hot people really bad in bed…?
Ep.152 “We Draw the Line at Treason” with Chris Metcalfe
Chris Metcalfe joins us this week to share two of the wildest stories we’ve heard in a long time! We also wonder if there’s a senior citizen market on tinder and what do you do if you find out your date stormed the capitol…?
Ep.85 “I’m Worth Blowing Your Career For” with Luisa Lange
Our guest this week made a checklist of all the insane things her dates have done to her-and it’s a long list! Phil also catches us up on his newly single antics and why he and Luisa hide their profession on their profiles.
Ep.151 “Get in Line B*tch!” With Molly Kornfeld
Molly joins us this week to breakdown the science of why women get more attached after sex. We also determine that pets come first over any date or partner and what borough of NYC has the worst B.O…?
Ep.81 “We’re Not Doing This Again are We” with Dave Temple
Our guest Dave tries to set Phil straight about his murse/tactical bag this week. He also gets into why he’s terrified of the apps and when did it become gay to wash your butt…?
Ep.150 “Your Secret is Safe with Me” with Alex Babbit
We have the young but wise Alex Babbit on this week to share all the keys to making a relationship work-communication, compromise, and a sickly partner…?!
Ep.77 “You’re Not Racist Enough” with Tushar Singh
We become works of art this week thanks to our guest Tushar. We also learn why he’s the “Karen” of dating apps and why do parents assume you’re gay if you don’t bring dates around…?
Ep.149 “I Top on Tuesdays” with Akeem Woods
We have the fearlessly hilarious Akeem Woods with us this week to talk about the best way to let someone down easy, which airlines make it possible to join the mile high club and what do you do if your date/hook up pulls up to meet you in a U haul…?
Ep.124 “Prezactly” with Madison Malloy
Madison Malloy stops by to show us how to lighten the F Up! She also tells the story of going from Wall st to stand up to author and does Phil (allegedly) have nudes on Google…?
Ep.148 “What’s Your Starbucks Name?” with Amanda Gail
We have the wonderfully honest Amanda Gail on this week to discuss settling, why men need to like women more in relationships and what to do if you forget your dates name…
Ep.122 “Can-Not-Com-Pute” with Krystina Hutchinson
Self-Sabotage was a big topic of discussion this week and the amazing Krystina Hutchinson returns to not only counsel Phil on his porn addiction but also speak on how monogamy is forced upon us. And should we really blame EVERYTHING on mercury being in retrograde…?
Ep.147 “I Love That B*tch” with Tom Cassidy
We had some fun asking our guest Tom some uncomfy questions this week like how often he cries, if he’d give his wife a hall pass and and the stereotypes about the opposite sex that are actually true?
Ep.120 “I Have the Proper Tools” with Ashley Heinke
Ashley returns fresh off of burning man to answer all our questions and concerns. She also lets us know how the apps are finding new ways to charge $ and is the mile high club really a real thing…?
Ep.146 “When Do I Graduate?” with Kaneez Surka
Our guest kaneez comes by this week to school us on arranged marriage and how she realized the day the day after she got married she wanted a divorce! We also discuss if long distance relationships are ever sustainable and does a man really need to like the woman more for it to work…?
Ep.118 “Making Romance” with Maggie Bellamy
Well…we figured out how monkeypox came about this week and that we’re happy being alone-no matter what Phil says! And what do you do when you’re date starts singing after sexy time…?
Ep.145 “Lucky Balls” with Jiaoying Summers
We have the inspiring and hilarious Jiaoying Summers on this week to have a deep convo about colorism. She also lets us know after all she’s been through she still has hope for love and why don’t men like funny women…?
Ep.116 “Jesus Drank With His Friends” with Ashley Austin Morris
Ashley Austin Morris stops by this week to pray with Phil and try to open Rachel’s mind to religion. We also discuss the complications of celibacy and can a relationship sustain if only one person is generous financially…?
Ep.144 “You Don’t Deserve a Laugh Today” with Jason Salmon
This week our guest Jason and Rachel educate Phil on wet markets and where Covid originated. We also expose some childhood trauma and why you should just go ahead and get into a relationship with your bestie!
Ep.114 “I Got Fatfished” with Kareem Green
Kareem is here this week to chat with us about old school values and why he doesn’t do well on the apps. We’re also split on if and how a woman should propose and what if you introduce your girl to therapy and the therapist tells her to leave you…?
Ep.143 “They Call Me Pauly Pen Pals” with ???
Our guest this week is choosing to remain anonymous because he doesn’t want to expose his online catfishing. We delve into why he does this and also why you shouldn’t use Cashapp! We also discuss if it’s possible to salvage a relationship if a partner gives you an STD and do all women have daddy issues…?
“Ep.112 “Tough on Kids, Not on Crime” with Chris Scopo
Our very first guest returns this week with a hinge success story! We also realize how un-self aware we are and do men feel the same pressure as women to get into relationships if all their friends are In one…?
Ep.142 “Dagnabit!” With Graham Kay
We’re back this week with the very funny and self-height shamer Graham Kay. We chat about short people privilege, why he doesn’t take his own dating advice and can you pinpoint where your future mate might be…?
Ep.110 “I’ma Pray For You” with Glorelys Mora
This week we delve into a topic barely addressed-how men and boys deal with the repurcussians of sexual assault. We also have fun going through our guest Glorelys’ tinder matches and according to Phil, jail ain’t that bad…?
Ep.141 “She Went Back to Her Nugget” with Julio Diaz
This week the hilarious Julio Diaz drops in to talk about why women are so drawn to married men, how he gained his confidence and should we have relationship courses in school or do we need to make mistakes first in order to learn…?
Ep.108 “Howl D**k To the Moon” with Jourdain Fisher
This week our guest Jourdain is here to let us know why you should kiss at the beginning of the date. Phil also never ceases to amaze us with his sexcapades and is it a dealbreaker if your date forgets your name…?
Ep.140 “Soooo Cringe”
This week Phil and Rachel have a one on one to chat about Valentine’s Day, the word slut and the double standards of male sexual harassment. And is there such a thing as respectful racism…?
Ep.106 “B*****S and Shlongs” with Mike Britt
Well, we take it back-apparently happy healthy marriages do exist?! In between getting gems from our hilarious guest Mike we learn some tips to get someone out after sexy time and is it possible to have morals when you’re in survival mode…?
Ep.139 “Soup is Sexy” with Juan Nicolon
We have another hinge success story this week with comedian and soup conoisseur Juan Nicolon. We also discover Phil’s one deal breaker-cats and would you spend $100 on an Uber to meet a first date…?
Ep.104 “Jeepers Creepers” with Ally Leftridge
This weeks episode is a cautionary tale of the apps. This week we discuss the controversial Roe v. Wade in our “own” special way and Ally shares her story of when dating apps can go horribly wrong…
Ep.138 “The Poor Love Me” with Dulce Sloan
Cancer energy takes over with Dulce Sloan as our guest this week. We have fun discussing two words that can be both compliments and offensive-Bitch and Ma’am. And is there a difference between breadwinners and head of household…?
Ep.102 “Fire Fire Gentrifier” with Gianmarco Soresi
On this weeks episode we have Gianmarco Soresi on to explain his theory on smell compatibility. We also discuss if std’s are a complete deal breaker and NEVER tell your Uber driver you’re a comedian…
Ep.137 “I Was Her Go-To Off Digit” with Josh Johnson
Our guest Josh has FINALLY found the solution to stopping unsolicited d*ck pics! We also discuss male post sex clarity and why do men hate cats so much…!
Ep.100 “I’m Perfect Now” with Tracey Carnazzo
This week the Queen of Queens joins us to discuss how men don’t take her job seriously, not wanting kids and we had to throw in our two cents on the Oscars debacle…
Ep.136 “These are Solid Business Decisions” with Andre T Mitchell
Incest is on the menu this week(JK) but we wonder why it’s encouraged in some countries but frowned upon here? Our guest Andre also shares why men are better friend zoners and have Rom Coms screwed up women’s minds about relationships…?
Ep.98 “I Don’t Even Know if I Should Be Here” with Chuck Nice
Marriage is on/not on the menu this week with our very wise guest Chuck Nice. We also discuss creating your own lane and that love at first sight might really still exist…?
Ep.135 “Everybody Can’t Be a Princess” with Nathan Macintosh
The Canadian Caucasian stops by this week to tell us to grow up and make Phil second guess his love for MMA. We also talk about how porn is melting our brains and what do you do if your date pulls out a personality test and you fail…?
Ep.96 “I Do Stand Up-You Can’t” with Stewart Fullerton
This episode we discuss how we’d NEVER get swindled by the Tinder Swindler and that blind dates need to come back in style. And what would you do if your date showed up in a wheelchair…?
Ep.134 “I Was a Feral Cat” with Rachel Williams
Our guest this week might be named Rachel-but she’s more of a Phil! She also schools us in how to get through and stay happy in a twelve year marriage and what do you do if/when you catch your partner masturbating…?
Ep.94 “I’m F-Ing Prince Charming Out Here” with Pranav Behari
This week we ponder many of life’s unanswered questions with our guest Pranav. The first being if ghosting is the most humane way to end a situanship? Also if there’s a genetic predisposition to kink and what would you do if someone mispronounces your name during sex…?
Ep.133 “You’re Too Ambitious for Me” with Daphnique Springs
We have the talented and hilarious Daphnique Springs joining us this week to talk about sending fake nudes and how she hated Phil when they first met. And what do you do when you find out your guest on your podcast is the catfish…?
Ep.92 “How F’N Dare You” with Adam Gulley
We have repeat offender Adam back on this week to talk about how college is a scam. We also wonder if slut shaming will ever actually go away and what’s the grossest thing you’ve ever shared with your partner in a relationship…?
Ep.132 “Straight Outta Sudan” with Alloramomo
We have sketch king Alloramo on this week to talk about dating in Africa vs America and why he thinks bumble is dog-ish. And what do you do if if your date turns out to be a mute…?
Ep.90 “Machine Elves” with Sean Donnelly
We’re back in the new year with a success story! We also had some fun making up our own versions of the apps and Phil wants to start catfishing-but not with his profile…
Ep.131 “Cancel Me Bitch” with Elle Orlando
This week we have the funny and beautyful Elle Orlando on to discuss why men are threatened by female comics and her dates failed attempt at swag. And would you give it up for the possibility of meeting a kardashian…?
Ep.88 “No DillyDallying” with Dylan Palladino
The dudes open up and get vulnerable this week and Rachel’s there for moral support-or at least she tries? We discuss hair loss, sexual issues and are condoms really THAT terrible…?
Ep.130 “I Had Such a Thing for the Rats” with Andy Fiori.
Well we found the one man on the planet who’s never cheated on this week and also tried to dispell the myth that cheating helps relationships! We also speak about grand gestures and learn why Phil faked a seizure for a date… P.S. apologies for the audio this week
Ep.86 “Throat Goat” with Riley Lassin
Our guest this week Riley’s sex life is literally a horror movie! We also learn that Phil actually gives good relationship advice and should it be illegal to cheat if your poor…?
Ep.129 “Unhinged on Hinge” with Ontonio Kareem
After Phil messes up our guest Ontonio’s name (like clockwork) he tells us the secret about why women really don’t like nice guys. We also discuss how labels are slowly fading away and does cheating help relationships…?
Ep.84 “Omg, These Rapists are so Religious” with Nema Katt
Our guest this week makes Phil stutter and has so much game she gets gifts from homeless men. Nema also explains what it means to be treated well and why personality isn’t a priority…
Ep.128 “A Few Fries Short” with Jessica Levin
This weeks episode is our wildest yet-and that’s saying a lot. Jessica comes by so we can try to coach her how to navigate the apps and find her feminine side. She also lets us know that she wants to be a part time GF and should we really be hooking up with our friends more…?
Ep.82 “I Don’t Translate Well to Paper” with Max Carney
We attempt to play matchmaker this week for our guest Max. Then we have an eye opening discussion about male insecurities and body image. And are there really dudes out there that don’t believe in hook ups…?
Ep.127 “Heels to Jesus” with Zack Watson
We have jack of all trades Zack Watson on this week and he’s the first guest to bring us gifts so he’s now officially our fav! Phil and Zack also give tips to women on how to DM dudes and what to do when a past hookup shows up on your first day of your new clown job…?
Ep.80 “Naked to Blue” with Usama Siddiquee
So we have one of our favorite guests Usama back on this week even though he came to blow up spots and make fun of our clothes. In the midst of that we reminisce on first porn experiences and how Usama had to earn his keep as a kid…(nothing too porn related)
Ep.126 “You’re the Phil I Wanna Be” with Phil Hunt
Our guest this week might be considered an internet troll but lets us know why he isn’t and that he hates the word. We also discuss ways to get consent without ruining the mood and wait…Men like cellulite?!
Ep.78 “It’s Not for Us to Know” with Olga Namer
Our Rabbi Olga stops by to test our Judaism knowledge and we failed miserably. We also get into conflicts between career and religion and is religious profiling on the apps now a thing…?
Ep.125 “I Was a Wreck” with Laura Caruso
Relationship therapist and coach Laura Caruso comes by and does her best to try and fix us in the 45 minutes allotted. She explains how to start to get past trauma from past relationships and identifying your attachment style. And can a previous ghost actually turn into a happy relationship…?
Ep.76 “Ba Da Bing Ba Da Boom” with Jocelyn Chia
We bare our social media grievances this week and our guest Jocelyn and Phil realize they both found comedy by mistake? And is not having social media at this point a red flag…?
Ep.175 “Stuck in a Stairway to Heaven” with Jordan Rock and Oscar Aydin
On this weeks episode we talk about trying to maneuver in a relationship when your partner lacks emotional maturity, that Uber Eats is the new hookup app and what do you do when you’re about to hookup and you realize your date has a needle in his hand…?